Comments on: Animal research lab violations and the Graduate School restructuring plan. http://siftingandwinnowing.org/2010/01/02/animal-research-lab-violations-and-the-graduate-school-restructuring-plan/ An independent news and opinion page for the UW-Madison community Sat, 05 May 2012 01:56:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: David Ahrens http://siftingandwinnowing.org/2010/01/02/animal-research-lab-violations-and-the-graduate-school-restructuring-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-3096 David Ahrens Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:53:51 +0000 http://siftingandwinnowing.org/?p=579#comment-3096 It is not clear from the reporting whether these violations though serious are unusual. Is it common for large animal (that is many animals) research facilities to have this scale of violations, more? less? Given what we know about medical errors in hospitals it seems consistent that for each 1000 "patient" days there would be a X serious/ mid/ minor errors. Should this be corrected? Of course. Or will it be more grist for the climate of fear as evidenced by the Provost's comment that this is a "near mid-air collision." And how exactly will that improve animal welfare? It is not clear from the reporting whether these violations though serious are unusual. Is it common for large animal (that is many animals) research facilities to have this scale of violations, more? less? Given what we know about medical errors in hospitals it seems consistent that for each 1000 “patient” days there would be a X serious/ mid/ minor errors.
Should this be corrected? Of course. Or will it be more grist for the climate of fear as evidenced by the Provost’s comment that this is a “near mid-air collision.” And how exactly will that improve animal welfare?

]]> By: Admin http://siftingandwinnowing.org/2010/01/02/animal-research-lab-violations-and-the-graduate-school-restructuring-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-3095 Admin Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:59:07 +0000 http://siftingandwinnowing.org/?p=579#comment-3095 Very important additional perspectives on the animal lab story in the following two threads on another blog: http://thesconz.wordpress.com/2010/01/04/even-citizen-reporters-lose-perspective http://thesconz.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/questions-arise-about-animal-welfare-investigation/ Very important additional perspectives on the animal lab story in the following two threads on another blog:
http://thesconz.wordpress.com/2010/01/04/even-citizen-reporters-lose-perspective
http://thesconz.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/questions-arise-about-animal-welfare-investigation/

]]> By: Admin http://siftingandwinnowing.org/2010/01/02/animal-research-lab-violations-and-the-graduate-school-restructuring-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-3094 Admin Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:41:59 +0000 http://siftingandwinnowing.org/?p=579#comment-3094 It has just been brought to our attention that the story about the animal labs first broke here a day earlier: http://www.channel3000.com/news/22094338/detail.html?taf=c3k and that the Wisconsin State Journal simply followed up with its own story. In short, the question is no longer how the WSJ came to be aware of the story but perhaps how channel3000.com did. Even there, we're aware that the inspection reports are public documents, so there may or may not have been a tipoff. We continue to hope the timing is indeed a coincidence. It has just been brought to our attention that the story about the animal labs first broke here a day earlier: http://www.channel3000.com/news/22094338/detail.html?taf=c3k
and that the Wisconsin State Journal simply followed up with its own story.
In short, the question is no longer how the WSJ came to be aware of the story but perhaps how channel3000.com did. Even there, we’re aware that the inspection reports are public documents, so there may or may not have been a tipoff.

We continue to hope the timing is indeed a coincidence.

]]> By: Holly http://siftingandwinnowing.org/2010/01/02/animal-research-lab-violations-and-the-graduate-school-restructuring-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-3093 Holly Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:26:40 +0000 http://siftingandwinnowing.org/?p=579#comment-3093 I am positive the timing is purely coincidental. No worries. However, that may not stop it from being brought up in discussions of restructuring the grad school. But it would be an absolute outrage if the violations alone actually lead to wholesale restructuring of the grad school, as I'm sure (I hope?) UW officials understand the lack of severity of the violations. I am positive the timing is purely coincidental. No worries. However, that may not stop it from being brought up in discussions of restructuring the grad school. But it would be an absolute outrage if the violations alone actually lead to wholesale restructuring of the grad school, as I’m sure (I hope?) UW officials understand the lack of severity of the violations.

]]> By: Even citizen reporters lose perspective « The Sconz http://siftingandwinnowing.org/2010/01/02/animal-research-lab-violations-and-the-graduate-school-restructuring-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-3090 Even citizen reporters lose perspective « The Sconz Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:27:26 +0000 http://siftingandwinnowing.org/?p=579#comment-3090 [...] The Sconz rightfully praised a post over at Sifting and Winnowing for posing a number of necessary and important questions relating to what events potentially led to [...] [...] The Sconz rightfully praised a post over at Sifting and Winnowing for posing a number of necessary and important questions relating to what events potentially led to [...]

]]> By: Questions arise about animal welfare investigation « The Sconz http://siftingandwinnowing.org/2010/01/02/animal-research-lab-violations-and-the-graduate-school-restructuring-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-3088 Questions arise about animal welfare investigation « The Sconz Mon, 04 Jan 2010 00:00:31 +0000 http://siftingandwinnowing.org/?p=579#comment-3088 [...] Questions arise about animal welfare investigation By Jack Sifting and Winnowing: [...] [...] Questions arise about animal welfare investigation By Jack Sifting and Winnowing: [...]

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